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At 07:32 PM 1/4/2003 -0800, Kim Flint wrote: >Other things in my life leave me without much time to participate here >lately, but I do still read the list most days. Over the last few months >I've noticed with increasing dismay that almost no discussion about >looping takes place here anymore. An off topic post once in a while >doesn't hurt anybody, but Looper's Delight now appears to be 95% >off-topic! Well, I'll be the first to cop to blatantly straying off-topic at a moment's notice (and why not: some of the most interesting conversations I've had in my almost-15-years of electronic networking can be directly blamed on topic-drift). Likewise, I'll certainly agree that several of the conversations I've helped along are contrary to the stated mission of the list -- self-moderated or not. However, I would also argue that many of those same message threads -- while not expressly on-charter with the groups purpose -- have helped in part to further solidify the members of this group as a community, rather than just a disparate group of people reading email. If this were a BBS, I'd suggest actually creating an area which would act as a "Looper's Support Group" -- a Looper's Cafe', if you will -- where otherwise senseless banter and off-topic threads by the Looper Community would be perfectly acceptable. Perhaps a second list is worth considering... or perhaps not. Finally, as an act of contrition (and to make certain this message doesn't completely devolve into navel-gazing) I'd like to offer this up: I was poking around the FXPansion site a couple of days ago and came across their 'skunkworks' (betatest/experimental) area. One of the free plugins available for download from the site is a widget called Stutter. Stutter will allow you to do realtime sampling, mapping, and looping of up to four simultaneous samples in real-time. You can download Stutter at: http://www.fxpansion.com/skunkworks/skunk.php I know it's probably closer to a phrase-sampler than an actual looper (hey, cut me a little slack). But if FXPansion were to add a couple more key features (feedback, an effects loop), they might be starting to approach a software emulation of the Repeater. Hope you can get some use out of it.... -c- -- President, Chicagoland Local Fan Club Chapter The Sanctimonious, Scurrilous Christian/Pagan/Atheist/Agnostic Non-Cunning Linguist Moderate Fence Sitter And Leftist Wackos Fan Club