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Heh, heh. There actually is a looper here in Minnesota who plays and records with solar power. His name is Michael Monroe. I think he uses a Jamman in his rig. http://hometown.aol.com/mmonroedmm/index.html There was a thread a while back about whether or not you should explain how you're creating your loop based music during a performance. Michael does, and the way he goes about it is pretty effective. Between his normal pieces he'll explain that he's using a device that allows him to record short loops of music and play over them in real time. He'll sing something like, "I can record myself singing something and then add to it" and capture it in the Jamman. Then he'll sing the same 'lyric' ("I can record myself singing something and then add to it") in harmony with the first, capture that, and let it loop. It only takes about a minute and since he's describing looping while looping (would that be metalooping?) it's quite effective in communicating to the audience how the looping works. Dion On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 05:41 PM, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > I tried being in a band with Noam, and he insisted that everything we > use be solar powered and we just couldn't get it loud enough here in > the > often cloudy SF Bay area.