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Thanks for all the helpful replies. Yes, there's lots that I like about the DL4 and I don't imagine getting rid of it. I guess all the advice is to go for the EDP . Thanks. Ian. At 05:18 06/01/03 , you wrote: > > A good trick for slowing down the drift is to set the DL4 to half-time, >so > that you get a longer possible loop time. then, instead of doing a 4-bar > loop, do an 8 or 16-bar loop. e.g., just play the 4-bar phrase a couple >of > times and record that as your loop. a longer loop takes longer to drift >out > of "sync." > > just before the loop gets too out of sync for you, re-trigger it, and >relax > for another 40 seconds. > > For me, I finally decided that the DL4 is a particular kind of instrument not > to really be used for loops that have to be tightly synced, and I got an >EDP > that I midi-clock to my drum machine (Korg ES-1-- a very cool sampling >drum > machine). I use the EDP for basslines and attacks that I want to stay in sync > with the drum machine, and use the DL4 for textures, etc. > > I have grown to love the way the drift of the DL4 produces overlays that have > their own almost mystical rhythmic logic. > > > d > > > -- > ghost 7/ Oranje > <http://envelopeproductions.com/>http://envelopeproductions.com > d.ans@verizon.net > > > > > > > > > > > > on 1/5/03 10:57 PM, Mark Hamburg at mark_hamburg@baymoon.com wrote: >> >> I will add, however, that though I'm not a DL4 user, I've heard reports that >> people do manage to get excellent sync by retriggering the loop manually (or >> rather pedally). Since I don't have one, I can't tell you how. Is there >a >> switch that means "Play"? Of course, that means you've got to keep your feet >> busy doing yet one more thing. >> >> I wonder whether one could make something similar work over MIDI with >the >> Echo Pro by sending the appropriate MIDI messages to it... >> >> Mark >> >> P.S. I'd have been much more interested in the Pro modelers if I could have >> bought a 4 button footswitch for say $60 that would have given me the >same >> behavior as the floor pedals. > > >