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Heheheheh, Some years ago I used to know a family of the name "Looper" in Ventura, California. They owned a small chain of restaurants called "Loop's." I don't think it exists any more. They packed up and moved away to Tennessee somewhere. They had a son named Archie, about my age, who was somewhat of a friend/acquaintance. I bought my first Macintosh computer from him in the mid '80s at a parking lot liquidation sale when they were selling off the family business equipment just before the big move. I've not had contact with them ever since. I think they're in Murfeesborough now. As I remember, the fellow DOES play guitar. I wonder if he ever discovered looping? I'd bet he'd get a kick outta a web list being called "Looper's Delight." It's funny that I never thought of them -- in all of this time -- in connection to this list. tEd ® kiLLiAn http://www.mp3s.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.mp3.com/Ophelia_Pancake