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I agree. One of your issues is probably trying to mix synth with guitar. I don't know about the GR300, but I don't let my GR30 mix my guitar signal with it's synth signal. I send my synth (unprosessed) into a mixer, and the guitar through a multieffects/tubepreamp and then into a mixer. I still get some noise, but it's mostly due to the fact that I'm not all that careful with chord placement and our apt is VERY noisy rf wise. I think it may be the fridge. Computer monitors seem to contribute as well. I'm moving and hoping the new place is a bit better, as I'll be able to keep my stuff farther away from my computer. Part of the problem is that it seems like your preamp is after a bunch of effects. Probably OK when you're going clean, but when you start using distorted channels you end up compressing your signal and all that gain will give you lot's of noise. When I'm not using the Digitech 2120 (tubepreamp/effects) I use a little Johnson JT-50 which has a stereo effects send that's post preamp, so my distorted signal is hitting the effects which helps. Warning: Reverb after distortion usually sounds like crap. Good luck. Mark Sottilaro "Taaffe, Denis G" wrote: > by the mackie mixer 1402pro vlz 14ch mixer for $350 and run your stuf >into that willbe cleaner mixing things, > Denis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Wiley [mailto:matthewf5@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:21 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: mixing and routing > > i am at a crossroad in my looping. i am not sure what to do with my >signal > path and thought that someone could help. my signal path is: > > tcm guitar (synth)-gr300-volume (mono)-wah-fulldrive 2-rotoshpere-tube > screamer-boss octave-whammy IV-line 6 delay (loop)-boomerang (loop)-dr z > route 66-vht 4x10 cab. > > this is very noisy and the synth sucks tone. i am not opposed to using >and > echoplex and repeater along with rack mount tc electronics processors to >get > stuff off the floor. the problem is how do i route and mix so that i can > conceptually get the same effect that i am getting now but only cleaner. > i > also would like to clock to a sequencer for our drummer. > > help, > matt wiley > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail