Re: [looper's] RE: DL4 question

[bruce tovsky <bruce@skeletonhome.com>]

in my experience, if you use either the knob or the expression pedal to change
delay time with audio actively passing through the dl4 pedal the unit doesn't
smoothly change, instead you get a "beeooowwww" scramble (a cool effect,
but not what one wants if it's a smooth delay change effect you're after) until
you settle on the new delay time. all other variable effects - feedback, mix,
tweak& tweeze, all work smoothly. i particularly love the tape echo noise in
some of the tape delay models and use the expression pedal to mix in and
out of blooming feedback. but again, if it's smooth speeding up or slowing
down of echo delay a la "and the gods made love..." from electric ladyland
you ain't gonna get it from the dl4.
bruce
i love it, honestly!

On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 12:20 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote:

> >>Yes, you can control any parameter on the DL4 w/ an exp. pedal, including
> delay time.  And it does all that cool pitch-changing you get with
> anolog-delays............ I assume this is the same thing that would
> happen with one?<<
>
> I was very happy with the effect I heard upon trying this with our two dl4's; I had read and reread the manual and was still convinced that either the delay time wouldn't change at all or that it would change notchily. in fact, there are moments when it makes noises exactly like a tape machine being varispeeded, or one of those old maestro units pictured in the manual, when you'd change the delay time by dragging the r/p head back and forth. works for me.
>
> >>well, one of the most disappointing things about the dl4 is the
> way it handles delay time changes with audio throughput<<
>
> I don't understand this comment- do you mean that you expected the delay interval to change without changing the pitch of the repeats? or is it that the little gaps irritate you that appear when extending the delay time? I use the pedal to change the swell and delay time on the tape echo setting, and it reminds me of all the tape echoes I've ever used. no hiccups.
>
> and meanwhile, on the EH 16s delay.... does anyone else out there remember the bel bd180? I didn't have one of those either, but our first solid-state looper was the powertran mcs-1 delay line/sampler, a 2U box with about 64k of memory... it could function as a crude monophonic sampler using midi or cv/gate, and could be hooked up to a bbc computer for sample dumps, but we used it chiefly as a long delay/looper (completely unsynced). it's 8 bit and has dbx chips at either end of the digital section in an attempt to improve the s/n ratio. also, there's an lfo that can be used to modulate the master clock and put wobbles on the delays/loops.
>
> duncan/r.m.i.
>
>
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