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someone, I think it was Gary Lehman wrote: "Also, here's some loop content--what classics do ANY of you loopers integrate into your performances? Any familiar tunes pop up? Is everybody improvising?" On my first CD (he confesses for the first time) I used a beautiful string orchestra snippet from Samuel Barber's 'Adagio for Strings' as a loop on the final track of that CD called "The Sadness of Leaving". I have a strong preference for never using anyone else's loops in my compositions but this one just really had the emotion that I was feeling at the time in it. I wrote that song when I found out that one of my good friends (and a brilliant musician and occasional loopist) Michael Haumesser (aka NOT MICHAEL) was leaving Santa Cruz for Rhode Island. We had been friends for 20 years and I knew that he was leaving for good. That piece still brings tears to my eyes, as simple as it is. this is why I would take a little bit of exception to Stuart Wyatt's comments about classical training and how it can be detrimental to creativity. Who is to argue with the greatness of Pierre Boulez conducting the New York Philharmonic performing Bartok's CONCERTO FOR ORCHESTRA? or the sublime genius of Sir Adrian Boult conducting the New Philharmonium Orchestra performing Ralph Vaugh Williams THE LARK ASCENDING? or Stravinsky conducing his own FIREBIRD SUITE? There were probably numerous stereotypically stiff, non-improvising classically trained musicians in those orchestras but the results are not only brilliant but have made my own life a little more worth living (especially during some hard emotional times when I was younger). It's all good guys and gals!!!! see ya all at NAMM............wear those L.D. t-shirts proudly!!!! Rick Walker