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Brainwashing? Good grief. Is that to say... the difference between learning from somebody OR getting brainwashed is TUITION? Believe it or not, there are some very good free-thinking musicians in our colleges, universities, and conservatories today. Also, theory and technique ain't bad. Think of the mathematical theory and industrial technique that goes into the development of those cool loopers we all use. Without refinement, we'd all be banging rocks together instead. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Wyatt (Solo String Project) [mailto:loopers-delight@solostring.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:46 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: classically trained? ** Resent to list. I don't know why, but sometimes when I click reply, it goes to the author, and not automatically to the list... Am I the only person who this is happening to? ** > so how does a musician become "classically trained"? does this mean > some > minimum of standard for specific musical skills (instrument playing > capabilities, sight reading, arranging, playing specific pieces to a > standard, etc) It normally involves brainwashing from an early age, with a lot of theory and technique. The brainwashing can become so instilled in your soul, that creative freedom can often be hindered... I know many very good classically trained musicians who have virtually no improvisational skills. They can only play what is written in front of them... but they do that well (unlike myself). I had classical training from the age of 6 up until 16, whereby I stopped completely, and discovered drugs, life and emotive freedom. If I had stayed as a strict classical player, then I don't think that I could do what I am doing now. > i took violin lessons as a child using the Suzuki methods ... is that > considered classical training? Yes and no. The Suzuki method is great, as it involves mostly practical work, and playing by ear. I never studied the Suziki method, but I know many a great improvisor who started that way.... -- Stuart Wyatt (Solo String Project) - http://SoloString.com