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> And while we're on the topic of Line 6 effects, > anyone tried the distortion modeler? How is it? > That's the only one of the four stompbox modelers > I don't have, but I'm thinking about getting one > (though I'm also thinking about getting a Z Vex > Fuzz Factory). Chris, I have owned all 4 colours, (though now there is a 5th, the red amp modeller), and I have to say that I was rather unimpressed at all of them except the modulation modeller. Even that may go the way of eBay soon. If you like the sound and feel of the others, you will probably enjoy the DM-4. It has a wide and varied palette of sounds. The expression pedal is a nice addition, though it shows up the flaws even more readily. One of my beefs with the Line 6 gear is a certain "hollowness" or "lack of life". This is a very personal and subjective opinion to be sure. I don't have a lot of experience with the pedals that they are trying to model, so my opinion must be taken with a heap of salt (as all must). That being said, I have used my experience with the Line 6 gear to spur me on to greater heights. For example, my dissatisfaction with the DL-4 prompted me to buy the Hughes and Kettner Replex for warm tube delay and reverb (this is the shizzit, kids), and the Repeater for looping (at only 4 times the cost!) Another thing to look out for when you link several Line 6 modellers together is that it becomes difficult to maintain your levels when switching things in and out. Some experimenting with the order of the units (which box to put first...) will help, though I never got all four up and running with any degree of satisfaction. Even with the wet/dry mix levels turned mostly dry. As a stand alone box, the MM-4 is pretty good. Combine it with other pedals and I started to run into problems that I couldn't find a way around. The expression pedal does an okay job of morphing from one set of knob positions to another set. Some of the problems that come up are the lack of smoothness in the sound from toe position to heel position. And then some of the knobs will switch from one setting to another in discreet jumps, not a fun thing to bump into with a smooth pedal sweep. All in all, I found the Line 6 stomp boxes to be an invaluable part of my education in effect boxes. And seeing how I bought them used on eBay and then resold them for around the same price, the education didn't come at a high price. If you are interested in the DM-4, by all means go for it, it's less than $200 on eBay used (get the power supply, don't even think about using batteries alone) and you can resell it in the future when you are ready to move on. SVG __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com