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--- Evan Meyers <evanmeyers@yahoo.com> wrote: > true, but hitting and holding down a 'hold' button > is virtually the same action as pressing a start and > a stop. Nah, there's a subtle difference between the two. What Dylan's talking about with the old-school DDL-based looping (like with the DM-2000, the Digitech Time Machines, Korg SDD-1000, etc.) is that when the unit is doing its thing and you step on the 'hold' switch, it will repeat the *last* cycle that hit it, the loop length being dependent on whatever the delay setting was. As long as the delay is happening, the loop is automatically already open, and you're just determining the *close* point. With this sort of looping, you cannot overdub onto the loop. And you don't have to hold the button down; a regular ol' momentary-contact switch will trigger it with one tap (unless you're using something like a DD-3...). The other devices he's looked at (Boomerang, RC-20) as well as the Headrush and DL4 require the player to determine *both* ends of the loop. (With the exception of a loop exceeding 14 seconds on the DL4, which does go into overdub at that point.) While most of Anastasio's looping was done with a pair of Boomerangs, he did indeed use a DM-2000 as well. (Excerpt from GP interview with Trey Anastasio 9/94: "I also have an Ibanez DM-2000, one of the first digital delays they ever made. It's got this bug in it. If you have the flange going and you hit the infinite hold button, it totally freaks out. It makes all these awful sounds. That's all I use it for.") -t- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com