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Yesterday I performed some looping on an acoustic guitar in a church where the on-stage sound levels had to be low. I used a little Behringer mixer to split the signal off my looper to [the board] and to [the headphones]. It worked great. I used Grado open-aire headphones. Grado headphones do not occlude your ear from outside noise, so you can still hear the room ambience or the band or whatever. A word about the Grado headphones: I picked these headphones out at a headphone trade show. They have a nearly flat response across the spectrum, not bass heavy like most of the consumer brands. Their entry model is under $100. Checkout at headphone.com, or gradolabs.com. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Michael [mailto:rob_michael_2002@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:15 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: looping with a mic The solution is simpler that one might think. As long as your looping rig involves a sub-mixer w/ headphone jack--have the house floor monitors turned off completely and simply use any earbuds/headphones. I have done this w/ a Mackie 1202 vlz several times. In order that I can EQ my stereo headphone mix without messing with the house mix-just go phones out into the channel inputs another small mixer (those cheap little behringers are fine) and split the signal at the 2nd mixer's phone out to accomodate any one else who may need the mix. It's not the most glamorous solution--but room noise and feedback problems are effectivley eliminated. Cheers, Rob Michael >I've been dreaming of a earbud/headphone system to use >as monitors for >years. I know a lot of big acts use them exclusively. >Anyone here >using something like that? >Mark Sottilaro >On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 04:05 AM, Ian Popperwell wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use my DL4 with my miced up flute (close clip-on omni > condenser) and > had such problems with build-up of noise from monitors and audience. > There's a > really critical level, over which FOH and monitors made it imposible > to create > loops with much subtlety and definition. I agree about gates and volume > pedals, > also monitor levels, position on stage also help. > > I now use my wind synth system and its wonderful not to wory about > noise and > feedback - that any "noise" that I create is deliberate and part of > what I'm > doing. > > Ian. > > > At 07:15 19/01/03 , you wrote: >> yes ii used to mic my looping set up. it was a nightmare! especially >> in live >> situations. gates help, you cant get around direct somehow. i have >> built a >> nifty routing system that pulls up to 12 channels into my boomerang+. >> let me >> know if this interests you or anyone else. >> >> peace >> jimmy george >> <http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com/>http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: ernesto schnack <schnack@mailbolt.com> >> To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:34 PM >> Subject: looping with a mic >> >> >>> I just had a bit of a revelation by looping for the first time with a >>> mic, instead of plugging in my acoustic guitar. The result was >>> great, >>> esp. because it allowed me to easily use other instruments >>> (including my >>> voice). I was even thinking of using a stereo pair and recording >>> parts >>> from different positions to place them in the stereo field. >>> >>> However, the leaking of the monitored signal into the mic became a >>> problem at one point, but i managed to keep it under control since i >>> had >>> the input muted in the repeater. Still, in a live situation this >>> would >>> be quite a problem. Anybody have experience doing this? Any >>> suggestions >>> on preventing leakage, noise gate on the mic maybe? >>> -- >>> ernesto schnack >>> <http://schnack.does.it/>http://schnack.does.it >>> >>> -- >>> <http://fastmail.fm/>http://fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups >>> email > service >>> >>> >> > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com