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About 10 years ago, someone (Dr. Z would know ;-) was designing an electronic music protocol called ZIPI that could run over industry standard network protocols like TCP/IP (maybe only TCP/IP? can't remember). It totally abandoned the keyboard-centric MIDI model of serial data "remote control" messages with a more open ended and 'musical' message hierarchy. I think development has been largely abondoned but it appears that some of the same developers are working on a new idea called Open Sound Control Protocol: http://cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ZIPI/ http://cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu/OpenSoundControl/ Implementing this protocol would require manufacturers to broadly accept this as a standard and essentially abondon MIDI altogether, if I'm not mistaken. Seems unlikely given the immense investment everyone's already put into MIDI. mLAN is essentially an attempt to get around some limitations with MIDI without asking everyone and their mother to toss MIDI out the window. Alas, I wish we would. ;-) Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jon Wagner [mailto:jondrums@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:28 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new HW/SW trend? > I've been wondering if manufacturers would move more towards "real" networking, ie: Ethernet. With Gigabit ethernet hardware chips coming down in price, giving bandwidth to spare, I'm wondering why manufacturers haven't moved in that direction. > Me too. ethernet seems so obvious - its been around for a long time and its not going anywhere anytime soon, and bandwidth is not a problem at all. I wonder, is there a problem with variable (unpredictable) latency of ethernet used for with audio stuff? Jon