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I've had pretty good results using inexpensive lavalier type mics mounted to the inside of frame drums and some other percussion instruments that I like to play very quietly (other musicians seem to like it when I play rhythm very quietly too :-). The most fun I had was with an amercian frame drum, I put four mics inside, for the four directions, and panned them into a quad P.A. (of course applying way too much signal processing too). Brushing and tapping around the perimeter of the drum sounded like a storm building on the horizon. I've used the Radio Shack lavaliers (about $25), and also the little Panasonic electret elements that you can buy from Digikey for just a couple dollars, and there's even a circuit diagram in their catalog. I'd recommend that a very rich person try out a set of Sanken lavaliers (and send them to me if they don't like them ;-). -Alex S. At 8:52 AM -0800 1/23/03, Greg House wrote: >--- Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org> wrote: >> >--- Matthias Grob <matthias@grob.org> wrote: >> > >> >> Its the biggest problem I have when playing with Giba: Even without >> >> monitors, my guitar leaks a little into his mikes, so when I stop >my >> >> loop to build a new one onto his ongoing percussion groove, it >still >> >> goes on in his loop and I am not really free to do something >totally >> >> different. >> >> When will I have time to care for "electric percussion" >instruments...? >> > >> >Perhaps this could be resolved by adding piezo or ribbon type >> >transducers to his >> >percussion items instead of using mics? >> >> yes, thats what I am dreaming of for a while. We have been talking >> about it before, here. It works with solid instruments, but I dont >> have a method to pick up skins yet. Maybe very close miking would be >> sufficient? Its amazing what Marcus Suzano and others do with the >> Pandeiro, with a inserted tiny mic! > >Luthiers have been using internal condenser mics in guitars for several >years. >Many people believe these sound better then under-the-saddle piezos. >I'd bet the >same type mic could be used inside other instruments as well. > >The ribbon transducers might also work, since they don't depend on >pressure to >pick up the sound. > >Greg > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com