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hmm. I just called alto, who said they wouldn't be carrying the new blackfaced ones as they were very expensive and buying an upgrade for a blond face was far better. Does anyone on the list see ANY reason to go with a brand new 4.0 black face? except for avoiding installation? I'll be selling my old obie, footswitch, and repeater soon... not to mention my filterfactory and mofx. t. On 1/24/03 6:05 AM, "jimfowler" <jimfowler@prodigy.net> wrote: > i don't think i would call it excessive noise, but the input and output > gains were basically useless. it would clip way too soon. the fidelity > just wasn't the same... > > and proper resistors had been "upgraded" but the machines (new vs. old) > still didn't compare. > > i would try for a new edp and see if that helps. otherwise, i think your > problem might lie elsewhere. my edps are terribly quiet. > > -jim > >