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maybe, if there are enough parameters... but what about the listener who is not familiar with those parameters? Again a question of balance between tradition and innovation? I'm not sure I follow Many listeners aren't familiar with sound as a wave, yet they hear. Theymay not be familiar with the concept of a key, yet the hear a cadence come to rest. I find that very expressive music can be made with relatively few parameters. Clavier instruments are very good examples of this. One is talking through mechanical or electrical proxies to the sound production means. Simple parameters can interact in complex and sometimes unexpected ways. I think the very important (and often missed) part is to remember that the interface is BIDIRECTIONAL. It's important to be aware of your instrument's reactions. That's why, even though your piano is reacting to some pedal states and hammer rates (the rebound of which is controlled by the mechanism) -- you can HEAR when someone is playing with the weight of their arms or the muscles of their fingers (like a harsichord player on a piano). I would venture we've all heard (or played with) mechanical players that weren't LISTENING to what they were doing. They weren't communicating with their instruments. The instrument alters the player. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail