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The response u people have given too my post has been incredibly generous, thankyou Here is a further question (sorry to just take from u people at the moment, be sure that I will be giving back as much as I can, including all my finished research, final paper etc.) I have an EDP and Polar (d.p.) I have access to the jamman, line 6 delays, boomerang To further my research I am going to spend basically every penny I have on looping equipment.... ( pleasurable research I am sure u will agree) Now the tricky bit I could buy a repeater (i know where one is and they are holding it for me) however they are very expensive the equivelent of $1000 here in england. That would pretty much wipe me out financially. Or I could buy the software Radial from cyling 74 to use with my G4 powerbook Mac. And have money left to look at the loopIV upgrade for the EDP and to look at various Midi controllers. I have been reading the archived posting on the repeater and while it sounds pretty incredible, at a $1000 I am not sure its worth it. So the question I am asking is should I buy the repeater or wait 2weeks and buy radial, Just how incredible is the Repeater??? Is it good live??? Just how incredible is Radial???? (unfortunately no demo or downloads of this program yet) Is the feeling that this software will eclipse all looping hardware when it is released???? Software or Hardware ??? (be sure I have and am searching loopers delight to the fullest.) Any opinions welcome Thankyou Geoff _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059