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Would an infinite reverb achieve the "tinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnmmmnnnnnnnnng" sound better than trying to get force a looper not to do "ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting, etc"? Whats a good (sound/clarity wise) footswitch-controllable rackmount dedicated reverb unit that can perform this function for no more than $500? Or am i better off getting a lo-fi delay unit like the old ibanez dm2000 that can sample a note and taper off its attack, creating the aural illusion of one long note: ("tinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng"). thanks, Jesse Malone In a message dated 2/3/03 9:17:21 PM, Sorceror777 writes: << In a message dated 2/3/03 8:55:01 PM, dennis@mail.worldserver.com writes: << For example, when you play a triangle (to pick out some instrument) into the LCK infinite sustainer, it sounds like the triangle never stops ringing. The sustain is perfectly even with no drop or wavering in level. Instead of "ting" you hear "tingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg..." I do something similar with the EDP and a gong. Strike the gong then very quickly step on EDP Record button twice. You make a short loop of the gong. Unlike the LCK infinite sustainer, you do get a bit of tremelo effect in the sustained sound, but it still works quite well. (The LCK goes through a bit of signal processing to even-out the sound.) Dennis Leas ----------- dennis@mail.worldserver.com >> Hi, What you describe with the triangle example (not the gong) is exactly what i want in sound. The LCK infinite sustainer..hmmm. Anyway, This is to be apart of a non-MIDI guitar rig, so does the LCK come as a footswitchable rackmount unit?--If not, what performs the same function as the LCK but is housed in a rackmount? I dont want software, because i dont want to have to deal with lugging an expensive laptop to rock gigs. Oh and by "loop-like/digital delay repeats" --which I DONT want---I mean (to use your triangle analogy, "ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting ting" ad infinitum.. thanks again, Jesse >>