Re: Syncing Cakewalk/Sonar to EDP clock...

["Jesse Ray Lucas" <jlucas@neoprimitive.net>]

I am an idiot.  Didn't even look down at the message.  Thought you were
trying to succinct-ify my message for me.  :)  Thanks for the suggestions,
Dave!  Although, if anyone else has any ideas or experience, I am still in
the market for a solution!

-J

> Actually, sorry, I am running Sonar 2.1 XL, and LoopIII v5.0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hastings" <dhastings@earthlink.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:37 AM
> Subject: RE: Syncing Cakewalk/Sonar to EDP clock...
>
>
> > Note:  All of the following is with Sonar 1, Loop III,v 5.0
> >
> > |  Symptoms:
> >
> > | - The manual says you're just supposed to start the sequencer and it
> will
> > | wait for MIDI clock and then start itself.  It says "Waiting for MIDI
> > | Sync..." in the status bar at the bottom of the screen when I press
play
> > in
> > | Sonar, but as soon as I step on Record on the EDP footswitch to start
> > | recording a loop for it to sync to, that message vanishes.  I tried
> > setting
> > | MIDI --> Control Source on the EDP to all possible values 
>(controller,
> > note,
> > | and off) and nothing changed.
> >
> > Looking at the midi output from the edp using MIDI-OX
> > (http://www.midiox.com) it appears that the first message send by the
EDP
> > when you press record (assuming you set ControlSource to off) is 
>'Stop'.
> My
> > guess is that Sonar sees the message and does.  (Leastwise, my copy of
> Sonar
> > drops out of record when I press the record button on the EDP.)
> >
> > | - If I have a loop running on the EDP already, sending MIDI clock, 
>and
I
> > | press play in Sonar it says "Waiting for MIDI Sync..." and sits there
> > while
> > | the clock indicator on the EDP blinks away.
> >
> >
> > Here, I believe Sonar is waiting for a 'Start' message, which got sent
> back
> > when you pressed record.
> >
> > If you don't mind doing a little bit of programming, you may be able to
> use
> > something like KeyKit (http://www.nosuch.com/keykit/) to filter the
> > Start/Stop messages to something more to Sonar's liking.  I haven't
tried
> > this so I have no idea what it will do to the stability of the MIDI
clock
> > received by Sonar.  (Although I have played around with varying the 
>rate
> at
> > which Sonar gets SMPTE messages using KeyKit, and it's kind of
interesting
> > until Sonar give up.)
> >
> > back to lurking
> > -daveh
> > --------------
> > Dave Hastings
> > dhastings@earthlink.net
> > "The trouble with music appreciation in general is that people are
> >  taught to have too much respect for music; they should be taught to
> >  love it instead."
> >
> >  - Igor Stravinsky
> >
> >
>
>