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At 12:32 PM 2/7/2003, Eric Williamson wrote: >i'm salivating over this pedal. has anyone got their mitts on one yet? I got the full demo at NAMM, and talked with the demo guy a bit. They didn't have one available to play with. My take on it was, "If you're are too poor to afford a Line-6 DL-4, this pedal is for YOU!" In fact, that's not just my take, that's pretty much how I heard a sales rep explaining it to a dealer. otherwise, I don't see much to get excited about. The sound on sound (aka looper) function lets you tap a loop. You can overdub on it. Can you control the feedback of it? No. Reverse? No. Half-Speed? No. Turn the delay time knob and change pitch? No. Change time/tempo without pitch? No. Insert-your-question-here? No. It doesn't do anything else in that mode. Just record loop and overdub. That's it. 23 seconds. As for the delay aspects, there are a few delay models. Analog delay, tape delay, etc. Not as many as the DL-4. Impossible to hear how good these models were over the din of some guy showing off a distortion pedal on the other side of the room with what sounded a lot like Toto songs. However, I'll bet the delay models are at least worth $100. Does it do that cool analog delay pitch change thing when you change the delay time during the delay mode? No. It makes some sort of glitchy farting digital noise. No doubt somebody will say they love things like that, but you will never hear them make any actual music with it. It won't replace your treasured EH-16. There is some sort of gimmicky delay effect that I don't exactly remember what it did, called "warp" or "hyperspace" or something. I think it just changed the repeat rate exponentially faster. (or maybe it did something else, I was bored by then.) It offers three or four presets too. The best part of the demo was when the demo guy played "The Entertainer" as a two-handed tap solo on his guitar. I haven't seen anything like that since the late 80's! Retro Michael Angelo cool! Oh, but he didn't use the DD-20 at all for that. It's amazing what talent gets wasted in the Roland booth. YMMV. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com