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<snip> The Starr Labs Ztar uses switches--buttons--to represent each fret of the guitar. <snip> .... you could run your entire show without any other controllers or footswitches..... Duncan. Well, maybe--I do find that using the pads is the best way for me to control the EDP--Except for sometimes--I never have completely eliminated the Echoplex footswitch, although it is pretty doable to have just the record and overdub single footswitches hooked up. Also, if you've got a PMC-10, there's just no replacing that thing! There's so much you can do that is difficult to do with another controller--and of course, if you're playing a stringed instrument, it's nice to not have to use your hands to control the other stuff. My Ztar is a double neck, but it's hard to end a phrase on "real" guitar with a tap on the pads of the "MIDI" guitar--easier to use a footpedal. BTW Harvey also makes bass models--Billy Sheehan had him build one. He's got some other weird shit too--MIDI harp?!? But the best news is the ZPC OS--there IS a motherboard in this thing. The new software is very accommodating. Gary