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Hello LD, looking for some advice in the realm of the EDP world. I just sold my BOOMERANG and DL4 to get a EDP. What are the advantages/disadvantages of the new plus model veresus the beige gibson model, beside the fact that the new plus has the LOOP IV installed? How much is the LOOP IV software if i bought the beige model? It really is a drag that they went to all that trouble and didn't make the upgrade to stereo, now that would have been an attractive deal!! You know Gibson just knew that idiots like me would just buy anyway, sly marketing team huh. thanks matt _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail