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This is not OT, because looping asks for different instruments - but we could still consider a separate list just about this? Back to the feedback and building of electric percussion instruments: I think its impossible to pick up a percussionist without any microphones, because of some instruments like seeds with no spot to install a pickup at all. But those could all be plaid into one or two front microphones that need to be pretty flat (because the worst is a colored feedback) and at low gain. So such Instruments that are not loud enough stay at home. All bigger instruments should have pickups or built in close microphones. For the building of the instruments I had a phantastic Idea with Giba for a simple way to mount then into solid body instruments like caron, clay pot, and hopefully drums. But the smaller instruments like woodblock, triangle, marimba and such would need an external amplifier. Some options: - for each instrument a little box that can be mounted to the stand. Each one could have an aux input, so all the instruments could be chained in case there are not enough mixer channels available (you easily reach 20, when picking up every instrument!). - a central mixer. It would be nice also to convince some mixing desk manufacturer to provide some piezo preamps instead of some of the stereo channels. In the mean time we may find a simple way to modify them. I am not sure whether we should go for battery or phantom. Both seems too much. Batteries are terrible For phantom we need symetric lines Symetry is great, but maybe not needed in most cases because the percussionist does the mix for the looping and thus probably also the main mix on stage. The XLR is somewhat heavy for some instuments, so it could also be a symetric 1/4" or even 1/8" phone jack The boxes should have Pan and the Aux inputs should be stereo, which ask for stereo phone jacks. I have never seen a phantom supply over a stereo pair of wires, but it should be possible I dont know who is going to build such a system and how many are going to buy it. I would like to participate on it, but time and space are limiting. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org