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Hello there Just joined the list. A few names from posts I recognize already so far. Have been doing loop based recording but am stumbling towards live application. Some mp3 urls below signature. I've been looking into low end samplers, seeking comments from the List's experience: 1. Zoom Sampletrack - someone mentioned this in a recent post, I only just came across it at the Zoom site. It does not seem to be for sale at the usual suspects like zzounds or musiciansfriend so no user reviews. Too new or already defunct? I like the layout of the pads but I read that you can't adjust loop start/endpoint? And only a 4mb smartcard? Seems limited. 2. Electribe ES1 - is this one really only useful for techno tracks or is it more versatile than that? 3. Boss Dr. Sample 303 - well, price is right but how does it compare to the ones above? Is the sequencing user friendly? 4. Boss 505 Sampling Workstation - spendy, moving out of low end, is it really more bang for the buck? At least it looks like you can adjust loop start/endpoints easily. Must have? So far I rather am inclined toward the Zoom, the pad arrangement seems favorable to creating new patterns in a physical way rather than a programming way. I checked the archives a bit but am hoping for comments from folks who have tried these things or gigged with them. If this has already been hashed over too much on the List feel free to email me directly. thanks Bob Collier The Thumb Piano Project www.mp3.com/thumbpianoproject http://trundlebox.iuma.com http://brokenaxe.iuma.com