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another thing worth noting is that paying attention to when your auction closes is worthwhile. My favorite is 9pm Eastern Sunday night. Folks have had all weekend to notice your auction, and its a reasonable time for both coasts to be online. And its fun to watch the sniping! For those of you that haven't gotten mileage out of Ebay yet, is a great place to buy and dispose of looper tech. I have bought a Jamman, sold it and another aquired locally, bought an EDP and a DL4, and sold my Repeater via Ebay. Yay for Ebay! I have come to think of Ebay as sort of a 'library', where I know I can more or less get my money back after I realize I don't need something any more. Bob Campbell