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>the minutemen defined my high school experience in the 90s. too bad you >missed out! if i had konwn you then i would've told you about them. ;) I bought "What Makes a Man Start Fires" the day it came out, on a whim, I was a Black Flag fan at the time, and it was on SST so it hadda be cool. Kicked my ass! I cried when I learned D. Boon died. Man, I loved that band. I remember seeing a photo of Charlie Haden jamming with them in an old punk fanzine, maybe Maximum Rock 'n Roll?, made me think that the 2 musics I loved at the time, Punk and Avant Garde jazz, were not that far apart.