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I've been using EXP mode a lot. But I realized tonight why. It's my "I don't want to clutter things up with yet another footpedal" mode. There are essentially 3 broad states for loop evolution for me: 1. Overdubbing/Multiply: Here having less than 100% feedback is critical since it allows one to replace material. 2. Fading -- i.e., the only change to the loop is a fade toward silence: Feedback is the essence of this mode. 3. Holding -- i.e., keeping the loop from changing. Of these, I find that the second is the most dispensable. The first is obviously indispensable and without a way to hold the loop, I get driven into adding material more often than I'd probably like. With a footpedal, I can get all three though the third is achieved via the second with feedback at 100% -- i.e., don't forget to push the pedal down when coming out of overdub if you don't want the loop to go away. Without a footpedal, all control is via the front panel and I generally don't have a free hand to ride the control when I switch modes. So, something has to go. EXP mode without a pedal gives me feedback effects for overdubbing and multiplying but turns all non-modification operations into holding. That's not as versatile, but it's better than the alternatives. Actually I used the EDP for quite a while with Loop3 and no feedback pedal. I used it more like a DL4 and just kept the feedback cranked. Now, however, I would recommend that anyone starting looping with Loop4 and no expression pedal run in EXP mode. If you've got an expression pedal, I would probably recommend Loop mode as a starting point. (My recommendation in the latter case would be different if the roles of the footpedal and the knob were reversed in EXP mode when a footpedal was attached, but that's not what Loop4 does.) Mark