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I'm another user of multiple volume pedals, all in stereo, including one Ernie Ball, and at least two each of Boss and Proel (same as Bespeco?---the VP15, and it's the best buy I've found; $30 at AMS). I've also had but dumped a couple of Rolls versions. I, too, place these just before the input to processors, so they don't cut off the processing. The problem with all of 'em except the Ernie is that they don't go to fully silent when heel down...there's always a little bleed. Worst offender was the Rolls. This is usually not a big deal on a parallel effect like a reverb, etc., but I sprang for the Ernie in front of my main looping delay, in order to keep the loop really silent when that's what I want. It's the only one that really works as you'd expect! David Tim Nelson <psychle62@yah To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com oo.com> cc: Subject: Re: Rack Setup 03/14/2003 01:26 PM Please respond to Loopers-Deligh t I too find a volume pedal indispensible; the Ernie Ball is like the Cadillac of 'em, but I've also used DeArmond, Boss FV-50's, a slew of Bespeco's which are great for the price (basically the same as the Boss for a lot less $), and right now I'm really enjoying a Dunlop Mister CryBaby that I got to kill both volume and wah birds with the same stone. Depending on the situation, I use as many as five volume pedals in my setup, including the one between a mic pre and the board that controls a Shure SM-57 for when I want to introduce flutes/vocals into a loop*... As far as its position in the effect chain, though, I prefer to put it *between* gain or modulation effects and time-based ones; ie. after most pedals, but *before* delays and reverbs, thus controlling input but not cutting off the 'tails'... -t- * a digression re looped vocals: the other day I picked up a cheap set of walkie-talkies ($5.74 at WalMart) and have been experimenting with holding one of them (the receiving unit) over a guitar pickup (thus on through effects/loopers) whilst, um, 'vocalizing' into the other one. Much fun. --- Evan Meyers <evanmeyers@yahoo.com> wrote: > volume pedal which i would put post effects,right > before the looper __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com