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today i played with others and my set up was this: carvin ae 185 >sans amp gt2>zoom 2100>digi space station>rang>alesis air fx>fender "champ".....still a 1 tripper, a bag full-o-pedals, a guitar and a small "tube" amp.....if you muck about with the zoom 2100 you can get some pretty wacky sounds that you can then re-wackerize with the space station.....the rang then allows for reverse, speed up or slow down, stutter type stuff and then the magic of the alesis air fx to totally warp out the maddness.....i ask myself "why do i have a rack with a mixer and 3 electrix boxes at home?".....i figure its because at home i am really concerned with "my sound" (composition) and i am not playing with others (free improv).....in fact, first one here gets the jello!.....ill send the first one to e-mail me a cd of todays outing, a part of the "KLUTTER" project (drums, bass, guitar/loops) i would love some feedback on this "music".....im dyin to gig out with this outfit.....perhaps D.C. LOOPFEST if they will have us.....bottom line: im very happy with my small set-up and so is my back.....:).....michael