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last night i hooked up my old tascam 4-track tape recorder and had a 20-sec loop tape (from radio shack) in it. and played around w/ it. i got some interesting/good starting results. the main thing will be getting more comfortable with it and redeveloping some chops/technique to integrate it w/ my playing...but i think it's a nice alternative to my 12 sec of looping w/ my dod d12. of course i need to get some more cables for some other hookup options...... s--- --