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Mark, The electrical codes vary from county to county around this country, though you can get a rough idea from looking at the codes. I've worked as an electrician setting up grounds for the mains in several different states. Usually there is some sort of grounding rod that you pound into the earth outside your house. This is from 18" to 4' long. And some places require that you place this grounding rod a few feet away from that house so that the eaves of the house don't keep the soil too dry. Then a #10 or #8 gauge stranded wire is strapped to that with a clamp and it runs straight to the breaker box. Some codes allow for ground and neutral to be connected right in the box, others require them to be separate the entire time. If your plumbing is all copper and it goes into the earth, this would also be a good way to get "ground" to your gear. If any part of it is plastic, then you are depending on the water to conduct the ground, not as effective. It may turn out that the easiest way to go would be to run a grounding wire out the window and down to a grounding rod. Just make sure you don't do this in an area prone to lightning... As far as checking out the nearest cold water pipe in your house, you will not risk damage to your gear, whether or not it works in getting rid of the hum. Just make sure that there is no possible way for that wire to make contact with either of the other two wires. Stephen <<<<I've been told a down and dirty way to set up a ground (I always like the Brit's "earth" better) is to take a wire from the ground socket and bring it to some form of plumbing, like a sink pipe or toilet. Is this OK? I'm sure our landlord wouldn't be up for paying an electrician to set up a proper ground, so this is something that I'll have to be able to do.>>>> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com