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Steve - You're right, Kim and Matthias' "separation" of the software from the hardware was/is very smart. And I totally agree, the EDP is a very very cool and unique device. Back in 1999 when Opcode went belly up, (if memory serves me) I believe Gibson sold-off the entire Oberheim line (to an Italian company). Only the EDP was retained thanks to the efforts of one individual inside Gibson (who's name is completely escaping me). I'd say a "two-pronged" press on Gibson helped resuscitate the EDP: 1) Inspiration: "The Man Inside Gibson Who's Name I Cannot Remember" - for retaining the EDP with Gibson; 2) Demand: Demonstrating market interest in the EDP a number of ways; including, for example, presenting high LD-site web-traffic stats. We did everything we could to demonstrate that if the unit were produced, it would sell profitably. One proof-point was presenting to Gibson a "bulk-order" for over 200+ EDP's with no sales & distribution costs, if they just used available inventory. Back in 1999, I'd estimate 99% of Gibson Sales and Marketing would have understood the EDP to be a tape-based delay! The point is, unfortunately unless Gibson could make a buck, they wouldn't have cared if the EDP died. Ultimately, the quality of the software from Kim and Matthias has created a unique and wonderful product, which in turn has created the demand and interest in the EDP. It's the interest -- manifested by regular EDP sales -- that keeps it alive. Actually, I'm curious -- how many readers are using EDP's that they bought from this 1999 "pre-production" order? David Kirkdorffer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:54 AM Subject: Re: EDP cost/promotion/etc -- history of stuff > > So, we are very very very lucky that Gibson re-re-re-started production of > > the Echoplex Digital Pro. > > ...It's not 'luck' at all, but more to the business smarts of Kim and > Matthias in keeping the rights to the unit and licensing it - this way their > development costs are restricted to working on designs/prototypes and > software (not insubstantial, but not like being saddled with 1000 >obselete > boxes), and they then licence the product... I think it does them a >little > disservice to describe the great situation that we're in re: the EDP as > 'luck' > > ;o) > > FWIW, I think the EDP is an incredible box - yes, it'd be nice to have a > stereo version, have a smaller version, have different covers like mobile > phones so that I could match my nails each time I play... but as it is, it's > the best around, and has greatly expanded my musical world. Thanks guys! > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > >