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High, another thing's for certain which I think you discovered or rediscovered just now: the instrument a Vortex works best with is an electronic drum machine. Im still really bugged by the fact that my Vortex started acting up in a way that when I write a patch to one of the locations, if I then recall that patch it only contains...chaos. What is actually nice about this function is that you get effects you won't get out of your vortex otherwise (like statistic sound generation from background noise), but on the other hand, being able to save own creations was a cool feature nevertheless... So if there's anyone out there owning two functional Vortexes who would like to trade one for a John-Cage-Vortex, let me know. Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de The Straschill Family Group - www.straschill.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de Eclectic Blah - www.eblah.de -----Original Message----- From: Jair-Rohm [mailto:gtc@chello.se] Sent: Samstag, 12. April 2003 03:50 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Getting rid of the Vortex... High; Pretty gripping stuff. I've been inspired to revisit the Vortex. I hooked it up to my MC303 and, for the first time since i acquired the Vortex, am starting to see what all the fuss is about. One thing is for certain: you really have to get into the Vortex to hear what it's really capable of. Thanks for your responses. JPW ---------------------------------------------------------------- Glass Thought Communications "Records for people to listen to at home." +46 708 940893