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cool!...you can also adjust the length of the loop a little bit using the pitch control, so if you record a repeating bit and get a flam at the end, try speeding or slowing it a bit and recording it again. Daryl Shaw highhorse@mhorse.com > i played around w/ my (old tascam) 4 track tape recorder > this weekend and discovered one little tidbit for helping w/ > timing of 20 sec loop (current length of looping tape that i have > to experiment with). i recorded a quick percussive bit. "zero'd" > counter out and then checked to see how long the counter played > until the loop started playing over. not sure why it took me so long > to figure that one out (I'M SLOW I GUESS, DUH!!!). on my old tascam > porta 05, the 20 sec of looping time almost corresponded w/ the > counter, i think it was > hitting between 20 and 21 counter marks when it started over again. > oh well, just an fyi for those using 4-track tape recorders as > loopers. > s---