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We've been here before, and Kim will not budge on this, even though I think he's the only one I've heard defend it. It's Kim's sandbox, so that's that. No need to beat this dead horse. Mark Sottilaro On Monday, April 28, 2003, at 09:44 PM, das wrote: > as i wrote before that i too am unhappy with the arrangment > and did write to the admin, just recieved this reply; > > no, I won't clutter the list up with that nonsense. Learn to use the > mail > filter functions in your email client. > kim > > i've written him back that i do not understand how having a subject > header adds > clutter, for me having a header would help with spam riddance. > > hmmmmmm ????? > > -das > ubuibi.org > > > > Scott Carr wrote: > >> Yes, it's a sensible request, but the one person who could change a >> simple listserv configuration file thinks doing so is unhip and enables >> morons. After all, Yahoo does this, and we all know that the unwashed >> have ruined the internet by trying to make it too EASY. >> >> Really it's the only thing I don't like about this list. The signal to >> noise ratio is fairly low, people are generally kind and helpful, >> trolls >> are shown the door fairly quickly, and there is lots of information >> passed around about all things looping related. >> >> I know fully well how to use mail filters and do use them for some >> purposes, but I prefer for all of my music related e-mail to go to my >> inbox. As my account gets more and more spam e-mails that have subject >> lines that resemble some of the subject lines for this list it becomes >> increasingly difficult to sort out threads. >> >> So thank you for bringing this up. You shouldn't have to appologize for >> revisiting old ground here when it is a persistant problem that annoys >> more than a few subscribers. >> >> Scott >> >> Paul Marshall wrote: >>> >>> Hi Loopers >>> >>> I am regularly unsubscribed by the from the list because I bounce >>> mails that >>> I believe to be spam. I use a prog called Mailwasher. I receive >>> maybe 100 >>> spam messages a day and I check them at the server to accept or >>> bounce. >>> >>> Usually I can tell which are LD posts because it says so in the TO >>> column. >>> However when there is a post where LD is in the CC or one of a list of >>> recipients then it displays an unrecognisable e-mail addy and I >>> bounce it >>> believing it to be someone wanting to enlarge my breasts or >>> something :). >>> LOL >>> >>> I scan my mails carefully before deleting but the volume of traffic, >>> the >>> variety of subject headers and number of subscribers here means that >>> posts >>> can and do get deleted in error. I was unsubscribed again tonight >>> when I >>> bounced the post from Jeff Lomas with the Subject of 'Accidental >>> performance >>> tomorrow' where LD was part of a list of addressees. Mailwasher >>> showed the >>> first addressee only and I bounced it. I don't want to have to open >>> every >>> mail to check obviously. >>> >>> Ok so I know this is a limitation of Mailwasher but is anyone else >>> having >>> this difficulty. All of the other fora I participate in to varying >>> degrees >>> have some sort of a header to identify [Loopers-delight] kind of >>> thing. I >>> understand that this isn't a yahoo group and different approaches >>> apply. >>> >>> Anyone have a workaround or a best way? >>> >>> I'm still ruminating on the percussionist loopers thread, thanks to >>> all for >>> the replies, I'll post again tomorrow. Love the forum guys. Cheers. >>> Thanks Kim >>> >>> Paul >>> ---------------------- >>> Paul Marshall >>> Portfolio Sound Artist >>> http://www.powerhaus.net >>> http://www.drumdojo.com >>> http://www.differentdrums.co.uk >>> NI Facilitator for the Da Capo Foundation >>> www.dacapo.co.uk >>> **Drumdojo Recommended Reading For April 2003** >>> Indigenous Irish Percussion >>> http://www.drumdojo.com/world/ireland/ >> >> -- >> ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% >> ~% >> Visit the the home of Hebephrenic, The Hot Buttered Elves, & Sunshine >> >> http://www.tapehissrecordings.com >> >> and our sites at the world's largest online cut-out bin >> >> http://mp3.com/hotbutteredelves >> http://mp3.com/hebephrenica >> http://mp3.com/sunshineallthetime >> >> ....and for a whole new kind of music.... >> http://www.tapegerm.com >> ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% >> ~% >