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This is a fun inside joke guys but we really need to take this community and these ways of making music to the outside world. the t-shirts are worn proudly at festivals and tours (all over Europe and the British Isles this summer, yeah!!!) and I strongly advise that we not increase the costs of the shirts just to put an 'in' joke on the t-shirt that nobody but people who have been reading the postings this week will even get. hows that for grumpy................LOL By the way, if anyone is privy to just how hard Kim has worked to make this site available to us and how much money he has put into it out of his own pocket they will be very forgiving when he gets a little spiny. I personally vote for letting him administer this site the way he wants to. I will even, controversially, suggest that we might consider making this a pay site. Considering the pleasure, knowledge, opportunities (hell, I booked my entire summer tour through this list) that L.D. provides, it would totally be worth it for me to pay for a subscription to it (and I probably make a quarter of what most people make on this website being a self employed wierd, 'fall between the classification cracks' artist. Kim, of course might not even be into this idea, but I think we should consider it to keep this wonderful place alive. God forbid that Kim should make up some of his financial losses or even, dare I say it, make a little money from all of his hard work. I would hate to loose this communal center because poor Kim gets burnt out on doing it. I love Loopers Delight. It is the first e-mail I read everytime I log on. yours, rick walker