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Fascinating, David! I find the music very beautiful. It's often reminiscent of simple, relatively primitive instruments like the berimbau or even tambourine, ironically enough. I've been having some fun in this direction myself. I recently bought what I think is the holy grail of four-tracks for the cassette looping I do, a Tascam 464, which has 12 inputs (four of them stereo), two effects sends, and the smoothest punch in/out I've heard yet. (for $30!) I've set it up so my three echo units all are able to send feedback to themselves through the mixer. This has great possibilities for onanistic (literally) noise generations, combined with my cheap-ass Ibanez DE7 echo pedal, which produces fantastic digital noise when sweeping the delay and feedback knobs rapidly back and forth. There's something very pure, yet totally impure about it. Kudos for a truly original approach. The "Feedback workstation", yeah! Daryl Shawn highhorse@mhorse.com > Hope to see any of you Bostonians at this gig. As you may know, I loop >not guitars, etc., but effects devices themselves. Ellen Band uses real >world sounds like rain, swing sets, trains, and creaking doors. It makes >a real nice mix. We'll have a CD released on the Pogus label next year.