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I've been doing similar things with a KAOSS pad for years now. Very cool thing is you can take a sample and change the loop point with the control pad. I don't know how short it goes, but it starts to generate its own tonality at some point. Because what you're doing isn't destructive to the loop you can take it back to your longer length. Mark Sottilaro On Saturday, May 10, 2003, at 02:39 AM, Stuart Wyatt wrote: > > I've just tried it with an echo pro using the Behringer 1010, and my > god, this is a micro loop. > I programmed one patch to send out the new loop command (PC#102) and > overdub command (PC#104) immediately afterwards, and the delay/loop is > hardly noticable - just a slight metalic consistency to the sound... >