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I just saw Bill Frisell in Oakland. This was my first time seeing him play and I was quite impressed. He seems to have abandoned his Klein for a Telecaster. On topic... He made a lot of use of loops in the show most visibly using an old Digitech pedal but also using a DL-4 to some extent. Reviving an age old debate on this list, I would classify his use of loops as more of an effect than an instrument or compositional tool. Their most prominent use in the show were as "funny sound" breaks. (Or at least that's how I figure most of the non-technical people in the audience probably identified them.) He does play them from the standpoint that a good chunk of his looping included playing with the knobs on the Digitech pedal, but they aren't an integral part of his main instrumental performance the way they are for say LaFosse or Fripp (to take a couple extremes) or Rick Walker for whom the funny sounds sometimes are the heart of the piece. Mark