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I have a pair of 1u rackmount delays that I think would be a swell combo for beginning or midlevel loopers. An RDS 8000 Time Machine has plenty of knobs for fooling about and 8 seconds of delay, and a DOD R-908 is a nice warm sounding 1 second unit. Both (in very good shape) for $120 plus shipping from NYC. I have so much gear that these are just sitting around. Hope someone can use 'em... David Lee Myers Feedback Music at http://www.pulsewidth.com