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i'd agree that his compositions arn't really loop based (other than somewhat on his solo album..."Gost Ship" I think its called). but loops are a big part of his sound these days. they are kinda rudementary from a looper's perspective, but ground breaking from a jazz stand point. -chris ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!