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Whoops, sorry about my last note Michael, I did n't relase that you were a cubase user (I should have read the whole thread) but the same rules apply with cubase as to sonar, its not a really live looping tool and as far as I know there is no way to load a cubase file into a live looping tool other than break to wavs down into descreet loops. Cheers OJ www.thejupiter8.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael Clark [mailto:mcl451@airmail.net] Sent: 17 May 2003 22:44 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live Performance Hardware Looping Equipment Question - Need Help Hi, I want to begin performing some of my music live. I'm looking for a Very Stable machine/unit/box that I can load/record my VST32/SX songs into and play live with a drummer and bass player. Here's the hard part, it seems. I want to establish one or more loop points in each song that I can trigger (preferably via midi) so that a particular piece of the song will seamlessly loop until I give the command to stop looping and continue playing thru the song. I've talked to Tascam, Yamaha and Roland. They say they don't have anything that will do something that is such a no-brainer for Cubase and other sofware programs. I just want to loop certain pre-determined parts of song - seamlessly - glitch free. Is that too much to ask? I hope not. I don't want to use Cubase because it's not stable for a live performance - imo. Too scary for me! Any ideas? Thanks! M... Btw, someone has mentioned the Roland CDX-1, but I can't find the manual on the web.