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I finally got around to messing with the internal pots on my beloved Digitech pds-1002, with great results (thanks Tim). There are four pots to mess with inside there, and it took a little while before realizing that just maxing everything out made the delay disappear entirely. I finally managed to goose an additional second of delay out of it - yeah! I also tweaked it so that when the regeneration knob (on the outside) is set above 8, it'll self-oscillate madly. The fidelity suffers, but I'm a big fan of that anyway. I ended up playing with the pedal for a couple of hours outside of my regular looping rig, and realized how great it was to really learn to maximize the capabilities on its own. It seems like people do this with the EDP a lot, and it's a great example to really push the boundaries of everything in your setup (instrument included). It feels like practice, finding out what the equipment can do so that in an improvising situation, one knows what to do to get a certain effect. Daryl Shawn highhorse@mhorse.com