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Oh, I don't think it has to or should be separated, in fact, I think just the opposite. I think we all should be able to support ourselves doing what we love... I just haven't been able to make that world work for me, and when I tried I just got very cranky. I found me trying to please an audience at the expense of enjoying what I was doing because I knew if I didn't get enough heads in the club, it was coming out of my wallet. I couldn't find a way to combine the worlds. Others here have. I'm totally happy I figured it out for myself, and it won't work the same for everyone. My brother tried teaching and he hated it, but did it to pay the bills. I can't do the same. Music is too precious to me. I'm not saying you *have* to sell out to make good money in the music world... but it sure helps. Mark Sottilaro On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 05:51 AM, Goddess wrote: > Mark, as a teacher, this is an interesting argument, -I don't think > it's necessary to separate the idea of music with compensation. -In > other > words, to say that because one may think about money, they must not be > thinking about music or vice versa. > -Hopefully I'm reading you right. Anyway, I play and I teach, and I > very > much expect some compensation for my time and efforts, and am > completely OK > in doing so. -By this, I mean, I may not always get it, but I'd hope > people around me would feel that what I'm doing is worth while enough > for > it. -and not because I feel that that's how I should be repaid so to > speak, but because it's just a simple fact that people demand money > from me > in the world we live in, and I provide something. So I feel that I > should > be repaid for it. -otherwise, I'll starve! lol! > -and then I won't be doing anybody much good, now will I?! lol! > Anyway, I've learned and practiced and such, for a while, and am OK > hopefully at what I do. So, with this in mind, I don't feel there's > anything wrong with asking for something in return. > Now, re: the music itself, when I play, or try to teach someone > something, I'm not thinking of the money at all. I'm totally and > completely focused on the idea at hand, and doing well by the music, > -my > student, -myself. -the idea itself... I try to deal with the payment > issue before or after. -just my thoughts, -thought I might chime > in... > -Have an awesome weekend!, K? > > Smiles, > > Cara > > At 01:49 PM 5/22/03 -0700, you wrote: >> I may be half the guitarist, but I gladly trade that for the ability >> to >> make music with no expectation of compensation at all. I couldn't do >> a >> wedding band thing. Music is too precious to me. Instead, I now do >> media design. Total sell out, but they don't touch my music. >> >> Good luck Andre. I want to believe you'll succeed. In a way, you >> have. On the fringe your either 1) a hack or 2) too advanced to be >> understood my most. Either way, it sucks, but I think we can all >> agree >> that you're not a hack. >> >> Mark Sottilaro >> >> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 12:25 AM, ernesto schnack wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:11:22 -0700, Andre LaFosse >>> <altruist@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> Now, that's a better fate than assembling Nike shoes for $2.00 an >>>> hour, >>>> or crawling out of rubble in Baghdad right now. But when I think >>>> about >>>> all the traffic going through my site, and how little of an impact >>>> it >>>> has on my actual day-to-day existence, it makes me wonder how much >>>> time >>>> I may have wasted by focusing so intensely on the EDP, as opposed to >>>> more bread-and-butter things that might actually lead to my >>>> generating >>>> some income from the music-related skills I've been cultivating for >>>> about 25 years. >>>> >> >> > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and > eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~thefates > > Please visit BadFiction and The Guitar Cafe. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/badfiction > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the-guitar-cafe > >