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On Monday, May 26, 2003, at 03:51 AM, Kim Flint wrote: > And I also appreciate the efforts you put into this Rick. I'm sorry > you somehow got the impression that I am being dismissive, because I'm > not. Hi Kim! How do we get ourselves in this trouble? The last time I brought up similar subjects a group of townspeople chased me out of town with torches. Damn those things sting! But I think it's a *great* point, and if we can move beyond the emotional bonds we have with the word "looping" I think we can better progress and promote our music. I think we all agree that the term "looping" means drasticly different things to different people here. Try to define it and we end up in a flame war. So if we can't agree on what it means (which I think is *GOOD*) why would we think the term would mean anything to an outsider? If I saw a poster that read "Flubu Fest this weekend at the Roxy" I might investigate a bit, because I'm interested in new forms of music. However, most people aren't. They'll pass right by. However if I passed a poster that said, "Progressive Electronica" or "Ambient" Fest I think more people would be inclined to check it out. (The term "ambient" has been so degraded that it seems to now mean any form of instrumental music for which there isn't a well defined genera. In a way I kind of like this term because of that.) SO.... what am I suggesting? Not sure. I know that the last few gigs I've played were not billed with the words "Loop" or "Looper" or "Looping" and no one (including me) cared. Here's an idea: The next "Loopfest" we do can have two names. We can call it Loopfest among ourselves, as we're pretty comfortable with that term, but when we promote it to the outside world we call it something like "New Music Fest - from Ambient to World and everything in between!" That way people interested in new and eclectic music would be inclined to check it out, rather than just people who know what we mean by "Loopfest" or people who are curious about that term. This way, everybody's happy! Mark Sottilaro