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--- mark <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote: > > I totally disagree with the fact that the internet > can act as community. How can you disagree with a "fact"? ;-) (Sorry; I know what you mean, but the momentum from that semantics thread keeps a'rollin'!) Hmmm, I think it *almost* can, but to be more accurate, I should have said something like "Online communications are an increasingly important factor in 21st-century notions of community". I never intended to imply that it *replaces* person-to-person interaction, and even gave examples of how the Internet, in my case, has led to meeting (in person) looping musicians from faraway places whom I never would have met otherwise. And even in the case of friends who live closer, the schedules and logistics of real life make communication by e-mail much more common than actually getting together. I have friends with whom I'd lost contact over the years but now correspond with pretty regularly online; if it weren't for email, there wouldn't be much communication there at all. I know we wouldn't be buying stamps or paying huge long distance phone bills. It's still better to get together in person, of course, but that's not always practical (and when it is, the details are usually worked out via email.) > To a small degree it can, and it does help people >get together, but the key is to get together. Sure, ultimately. Our disagreement there is just a matter of degree. > (I met my wife on the internet doing a search on >Brian Eno!) In a weird sequence of events, it was indirectly because of Looper's Delight that I met my girlfriend: in the early '90's, there was a pretty good music 'scene' in my area (Portland, ME to Boston, cenetered on Portsmouth, NH) and I was a member of one of the better-known bands in that scene. Then I burned out on it and dropped out of it for a few years. Of course, I couldn't stop doing music completely, and after a while, I'd discovered LD, got involved with the Chain Tape Collective, and gradually started performing again. Because of the recognition factor of my previous band, I got some press regarding my "new" direction (which was ironically what I'd already been doing for years before my higher-profile gig), and got a call to do some live-loop-based session work, essentially being asked to do a David Torn impersonation for a project featuring a Celtic/World-influenced vocalist. She and I became the best of friends (and she was a listmember for a while) and the rest is history. Wouldn't have happened that way without the Internet, though. >I think the internet is good at augmenting social >groups, but not a replacement or alternative to them. No, I don't think it replaces them either, but it can sure be instrumental in strengthening them, particularly when it comes to bringing together people with non-mainstream interests from a wider geographical area than would otherwise be the case. ************************************************** How many people have as a result of being on the Looper's Delight mailing list have: 1) Gotten gigs you wouldn't otherwise have gotten? 2) Travelled to and/or performed at an event planned/described on-list? (eg. Loopstock, one of Rick Walker's events, etc.) 3) Socialized and/or collaborated with other listmembers? 4) Influenced musicians you already knew to become listmembers or take up looping? 5) Met your significant other? In my case, I'm five for five; I'd say LD's been a pretty significant part of my concept of 'community'. -t- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com