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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Chance" <lrc8918@louisiana.edu> To: <rs@moinlabs.de> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: what are you (not) looping > i have a hard time with rhythmic live drums and looping. mic/feedback > issues are part of the problem. another thing that i run into is trying to > find kit drummers who can keep time with a delay slap back. i don't >play > kit myself, and drummers with effects savvy are precious and few. i >find > that flutes can oversaturate a loop quickly if you try to do dense layering > with them, whereas the dynamic and tonal versatility of the electric guitar > generally allows for a greater number of layers. but that doesn't really > prevent me from using flutes, i just crank down the feedback. actually, i > guess i'll loop just about anything. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> > To: "Looper's Delight Mailing List (E-mail)" > <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:12 PM > Subject: what are you (not) looping > > > > An interesting question I'd like to start as a followup is "What are >you > not > > looping" ? > > or: > > Are there any instruments you play ("instruments you play" in the more > > general sense of "noises you create") which you do not loop? > > > > Personally, I have several different instruments and have looped most >of > > them: > > keyboards (lots, my second instrument) > > electric bass guitar (in different varieties, my main bass being a > > six-string tuned in sixth-fifth tuning through a VBass) > > electric guitar > > trombone > > saxophone (mainly soprano) > > voice (including spoken announcements, noises picked up from the audience, > > cell phone calls,...) > > effects (I did some performances where I would weirdify a normal > instrument > > (with the effect not necessarily going through the amplification) and then > > looping only the effect signal. And I used combinations of effectors as > > instruments themselves (the DL4 is excellent for this, really cheap > > distortion pedals with an open guitar cable work also great, every kind of > > filter, and this in combination with ring modulators, reverbs, delays >-> > > into the loop) > > loops (re-looping loops themselves in any creative way, both live loops > and > > prerecorded material) > > > > What I didn't loop: > > acoustic guitar (I'm not a good guitar player and thus didn't tale the > time > > to set up microphones etc. to loop my own struggling with the acoustic) > > recorder (same goes here) > > acoustic drums/percussions (don't have any of these myself) > > > > > > As you see, I loop mostly every noise I create. Still, I've begun to >see > the > > reason why lots of people here (and a lot of really famous loopers) are > > guitarists: the guitar seems to be an excellent sound source for creative > > looping. I'm not enough of a (bass) guitarist to give more valid >reasons > for > > this than the possibility to play both chords and expressive melody lines > > (i.e. more expressive from the technical means than keyboard parts), >the > > fluency of lots of guitarists with effects in general and effects you step > > on in particular, the "electricity" of the guitar as a simplification >of > the > > technical set-up (compared, say, to looping a classical harp). > > > > Anybody could further comment on this. And anybody can name instruments > > he/she plays but doesn't loop, or instruments which are totally inept for > > looping? > > > > Rainer > > > > Rainer Straschill > > Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de > > The Straschill Family Group - www.straschill.de > > digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de > > Eclectic Blah - www.eblah.de > > > > >