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I create everything on the spot, but after playing some similar songs week after week, it is easy to create loops that 'sound' the same, even if it isn't *exactly* the same. Like: Low bass drone, in D Arpeggio in Dm7 3 Ebow guitars, Etc... It is pretty easy to get close. I don't have 2 EDPs (but I will, one day), but for me, the main advantage would be looping stereo guitar or effects- keeping the panning the same throughout the loop. I'd imagine things could start to sound pretty wild, with sound bouncing back and forth. That being said, is there a device that just takes an incoming stereo signal, and pans it to a certain place? I know a lot of this can be done within a synth/effects device itself, but if I do it, say, post effects, I won't be locked into a specific pan location. And no, once the EDPs are off, the loops are gone. But I think that is a good thing. Dave Eichenberger http://www.hazardfactor.com > I was curious if any of you doing live looping gigs > ever start with a series of already pre-recorded basic > loops, or do you create everything on the spot. > >