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I totally agree, this baby isn't for it's own sounds, it's better as a controller. Mark Sottilaro On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 10:50 AM, sserendipity wrote: > To my ears, the built in sounds are just horrible - you can practice > with them, but that's about it.... Stick with it a while, if you've > never hit a drum before, and plug it into another sound source > (preferably something that uses velocity for more than just note > volume), and you'll be happy.