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I am starting to see some light through the trees here thanks to you. There are still a couple of things I need to work out. I am correct in assuming that you really need to be working with all quantized functions and with the switch quant turned on, to keep loops synced up with a drum machine no matter how you are manipulating the echoplex? I didn't have the switch quant on before. All the very best! Terry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com