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After another all all nighter I finally got the echoplex to sycn up with my drum machine and stay in sync while I manipulated my loops. I couldn't have done it without Kim, Andy, Per, in particular and others on this list. Thanks for all your help. Next on my agenda is to learn to use the echoplex in different timings and switch between them, and polyrhythms. The music I am working on now changes timings constantly and is using polyrhythms, like King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, or Balinese Gamalaon music, etc. So I need to learn how to use the presets and 8th cycles really well next. All the very best! Terry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com